The only reason I gave these trainers a 4-star rating is because they didn't offer it with a pitching toe. I bought these for my daughter who trains at an indoor facility on turf. Anyone who has a pitcher that pitches on turf knows that the pitching toe of the shoe will only have a short life. I purchased a "Tough Toe" and added it. So far it has worked out wonderfully and she loves her shoes as well as the rest of the team. Great look and feel.